The Second book is even better than the first. I love the new characters especially Victor, love myself some crazy scientist. I have a few questions though.
1. Is Pen/Death a Ro? If yes, will it be a solo or poly route?
Pen is going to be an RO. I'm not sure at what point it is going to be presented as an option in the game but it will for sure be this book. Also still unsure about whether there will be a poly route. If there is, it will be a V poly.
I don't know how many chapters there will be. I don't plan my chapters out and instead just kind of go with the flow. I do know it will be longer than book 1 so over twelve chapters.
And as for how many books in the series, there will be three in total.
LOVE THIS STORY. Please don't listen to those inconsiderate comments and keep doing what you and we love. This story is gold, and it's honestly one of the best I've read in a while.
I know the game Supernatural by 13Leagues uses a feature like that , so maybe you could check in with that developer ? Just a suggestion of course , but I do know they use it for their series with a total of 3 current games ^^
The fact that there's still no platonic route and you kind of forced to romance someone if you want to read second book - feels like a punishment for not wanting to romance anyone. And if i recall correctly, author just abandoned work on it for who knows how long. I just want to enjoy the story...
I mean, the author literally posted that it was comments like this that made them want to step back yet... you still came and left one. Saying stuff like "forced to romance""the author just abandoned" and "feels like a punishment" is quite literally over the top, not true and those types of accusations do nothing but make authors in general feel less motivated to write. They're WIPs for a reason.
Option 1: If a platonic route is that important to you and you just want to "enjoy the story" and this Author and how they've decided to write their plot is keeping you from doing that; your best bet is playing something where romance is not basically one the biggest parts of the game.
Option 2: Be patient. Be considerate. Wait until Zinnia gets to the platonic route (if there will be one ). Nobody is "forced" to do anything. You are actively making the personal decision to play something making you unhappy.
This is a WIP. There will be a platonic route at some point (as I've stated multiple times it will be in the final copy). It is not abandoned. I currently have someone in my family dying and therefore, they are more important. But even if none of that was true,I would suggest trying to write over a million words in a year, which include about a dozen routes, learn how to code a game, and also live your life at the same time. Then talk to me about how you feel punished. When you have done it, you can come talk to me. I'm done with this.
Every time Ive seen you make a comment yuunksu, it was to b*tch about something. You used super condescending language when noting they had not made a correction you just COULDNT live without. Your attitude needs work. This person owes you NOTHING. Stop acting like they should be working on your schedule instead of their own. Read something else in the mean time. Maybe even pick up a book or learn a new skill.
Then don't read it. It's the authors story, the author is working hard to write it, and trust, there are soooo many ppl out there that love's what the author does, appreciates all the hard work and waits with baited breath for all the work that gets put out. Yes it is a interactive fiction, but it is still the author's story, no if, ands, or buts about it period. If you find this punishing why continue to read it, just so you have something to complain about??? Smh, I never understand why someone will willingly do something like that. Anyway I am one of the consumers that wait for the author's hard work to come out. There are few author's out there that I would say I would buy their work 5 times over if I had to. That's how good the product is. I hope you have a great day and find some sunshine in your life so you stop complaining about things you really have no right to complain about. Live more, laugh more, and love more. The world and you need more of all 3 of those things.
Okay. That has been working for everyone else so I'm not sure what is happening because that would be something on your end. However, when the next chapter does come out, I am going to do an entirely new file and upload. I'm transferring everything to a new file to make sure there is no lingering issues from the Twine update they did. Hopefull that should fix it.
In the meantime, does anyone else have suggestions? I haven't heard where this hasn't worked for people. Usually deleting the cache and restarting the game from scratch fixes it.
Hiii, idk if im the only one with this problem, but I guess this happens when you take all the more aggressive options with Milo or something because literally I have another file when I take all the more soft option with him (Romance him) but after you found him in the aqueduct and talk with him, I also clicked in the option him escorting MC to the exit and there is also a bug or something where you can't continue the story.
In the pic is other part of the story (with the same characteristics I write before) where there is not "Next" part
I am currently working on this bug. It may take a bit of time but I will post an update when that is all smoothed out. I'm not sure what happened yet and I have a feeling there is a random code somewhere that is causing the glitch.
honestly I really hope the author of this wonderful book would give us the options to romance all of the characters individually and give the option to enter poly routes without jeopardising the whole individual romance and the fanbase, I understand that they want to be inclusive but it'll really be cutting off the majority of people who play and read the story. that's just my opinion on the whole milo and malcom poly stuff.
Yes. As one of the most sought after romances options in the series is milo removing the option to only romance him is potentially a risk, a lot of people prefer a single person romance, not saying that the poly route should be erased, just give the reader the choice like belladonna and Gabriel's romance routes instead of removing the opportunity entirely :)
* Due to there only being a handful of places to read reviews I thought I would leave this here to help people who are buying this game for the romance *
*Slight Spoilers* -
After playing both the Book One in full (All Romances) And reading the current Demo for book 2, I was incredibly disappointed in the way the author handles the Male Romances, specifically the handling of the poly routes. As the author has stated both Milo and Gabe have Solo and Poly routes, but this isn't entirely true, and from reading some of the replies on the Tumblr, it's borderline sneaky.
Milo is non-monogamous with a locked in poly (Book 2), The MC can either be apart of that Poly or Choose to only date Milo while he remains in it. This wouldn't be an issue for me *At all* if it didn't become clear how little Milo actually care's for the MC. In his route, you are basically a walking doormat for him, you will always be a background character compared to the other RO in the poly and it's blaringly obvious. The other RO is special to them, that much is blaringly obvious... while our MC is kind of... there. I don't know if the author wanted to do this for Angst? Because they didn't notice? but it just come's across to me and a number of other reviews I read as basically "If you want to romance this character, you have to accept a non-monogamous relationship in which you're side-lined... because Character Trauma *TM"
Gabe has similar issues but is far less "In your face" While Gabe *does* have a solo route, it becomes clear that that is *not* his preference... It's obvious that while you can Romance Gabe solo, he is constantly open to also including his Ex... which is an awful way of handling a Poly route. It come's across as though they're just "waiting" for the MC to change their mind and that's... awful.
All in all, I believe that the Author really should let people know about these issues with the romances before people invest time and money, I understand if perhaps, these issues were made to be angsty or even as a specific trope, but it doesn't come across that way. Hopefully these issues are touched upon in the Book 2 Demo, All of that said and as harsh as I may have sounded, this book is truly lovely, the setting is beautiful and for someone to create such unique atmosphere is incredible, I was absorbed immediately and it really itched my "Dark Alice in Wonderland Vibes" love.
I think I might have found a small bug in the not romancing anyone in the first book route. When you're done with the Gabriel tea situation (as in, made the boy drink the darn stuff), there's nothing to advance the story where normally there's a Next you can click.
Also, absolutely awesome work!! This whole story is super cool, I had a blast playing Book 1 repeatedly with different MCs!
If i'm not mistaken your MC can romance Malcom alone but he will eventually enter a relationship with Milo too, and the same thing happens for Milo route. You can do their solo route but your MC will always end up in a polyamorous relationship: either a V poly (where you dating one of them and they're dating each other) or a triad poly where you're dating both of them and they're dating each other so basically the three are together.
Hey there, I know this is WIP, but I thought I'll mention it in case it's a bug. In Chapter 3 when You agree to Milo escorting you back. There are two dialogue options on a way, and neither of them has any continuation making game stuck.
Edit: Never mind! I suppose it's related to the fact that I used saves from previous versions of the game. When I reached end of chapter 3 the same thing happened and I could not continue to Chapter 4, but on the "New Game" I could continue all the way to chapter 4. Is that going to be a constant until the final release of the game? If you want to continue to next chapter, you have to restart from the beginning? Would be really nice to know, thank you!
It shouldn't be a constant. Twine updated not too long ago and I'm starting to wonder if the document I write in is not compatible with it anymore. There is something very strange going on with it all. I will usually post a note though if there is a chapter you need to start from and click through for a coding situation. Or I will put in backdoor codes and clean it up on the final version. Thank you for letting me know what is going on.
Looks promising but still zero character development from Milo frustrating to see. Is there any way to only romance Milo? I don't want to be polygamous with Mal. They claimed to be history but I feel like our MC is the third wheel in the relationship.
I think the author said you wouldn't be able to romance Milo without him also being with Malcolm, and we have to keep in mind that he was always a very flawed and stubborn character and he isn't gonna change years worth of behaviors and habits in a short while
At this rate I just hope the author is willing to compromise by giving us a choice to still be in a throuple or go back to being platonic with both guys.
I don’t care if I end up single, would rather be alone anyway than being Milo’s second choice when his first wasn’t there to comfort him. 🙄
You can break up with Milo in chapter five. I'm not sure if there will be a new romance code that will happen until the final product however. I'm wanting to get the story down rather than create more paths. When I have the final release, I'll narrow down what feels right for the characters more.
Oh I didn’t know that, thank you for giving that choice at least!
As for new romance, I don’t know about the others but personally I don’t mind if we don’t get to choose to romance anyone again (aka end up single). Like I said, I just wanted a choice to break up instead. And I totally understand your priority, still amazed at the speed of your writing, haha. 😅
So with this being the WIP version, most of the UI is not created yet. Most likely I'll be focusing on that more towards the end of the wip and have it for when it becomes a full game.
This is really great! I can't wait for more! Also how tall is Belladonna because for some reason even while I was reading the first book I imagined her to be like insanely tall? Maybe because she is a vampire? Anyway keep up the good work!
will there be more chapters on itch.io or just on patreon? just finished the first book and the two chapters here and omgg i am SOBBING with the hazel scenes
uhh so kinda finished book 1 in two days bc i fell in love with the story and ur characters (milo pookie bear ily but i do hate u so much rn…) anyways! zinnia why are u so amazing ?!! 💗😭 ima let the chapters on here marinate a little bit before reading tho :3 can smell the angst coming out of book 2 with the way we left off (yay!)
I've binged-read from Book 1 until the latest chap of Book 2. Latest happenings were absolutely heart-wrenching, but I'm willing to go through the angst if it meant there's a light at the end of the tunnel. 🥹😭 Dealing with the aftermath in Book 2 was heart-breaking, but I'm here to go through it.
Is it normal that even though i chose the platonic path - game asumes that i had relationships with milo? Memories of kissing and "have malcom talked with him about us?"
I just finished book one and oh my god. First off I immediately ran over here when I realized that part of book two was out lol. Second, the entirety of book one was some of the best writing I have ever seen, you are incredible, and I can already tell I am going to love book two just as much as I loved book one. Thank you. :)
Oof. You are in right at the beginning, I'm afraid. So, obviously book one is up for purchase (I just have to make sure that you know because some people are unaware) but I just started writing this one. The good news is that I'm a pretty frequent updater. It only took me a year to write the first book in its entirety. Chapter two is about halfway written now and then it will be off to the beta's. Early access always goes up on Patreon first and then about two weeks later it is released to the public. I usually make an announcement here and over on Tumblr when I have early access out.
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The Second book is even better than the first. I love the new characters especially Victor, love myself some crazy scientist. I have a few questions though.
1. Is Pen/Death a Ro? If yes, will it be a solo or poly route?
2. How many chapters will the book two be?
3. How many books will there in the series?
Pen is going to be an RO. I'm not sure at what point it is going to be presented as an option in the game but it will for sure be this book. Also still unsure about whether there will be a poly route. If there is, it will be a V poly.
I don't know how many chapters there will be. I don't plan my chapters out and instead just kind of go with the flow. I do know it will be longer than book 1 so over twelve chapters.
And as for how many books in the series, there will be three in total.
I'm so glad you are enjoying it!
Thank you for replying!!
LOVE THIS STORY. Please don't listen to those inconsiderate comments and keep doing what you and we love. This story is gold, and it's honestly one of the best I've read in a while.
THANK YOU
Is there going to be a way to transfer saves from book 1 to 2.
I am looking at a way to do that for the final version. Twine is a bit finicky with stuff like that but I can't be the only one in that position.
I know the game Supernatural by 13Leagues uses a feature like that , so maybe you could check in with that developer ? Just a suggestion of course , but I do know they use it for their series with a total of 3 current games ^^
The fact that there's still no platonic route and you kind of forced to romance someone if you want to read second book - feels like a punishment for not wanting to romance anyone. And if i recall correctly, author just abandoned work on it for who knows how long. I just want to enjoy the story...
I mean, the author literally posted that it was comments like this that made them want to step back yet... you still came and left one. Saying stuff like "forced to romance" "the author just abandoned" and "feels like a punishment" is quite literally over the top, not true and those types of accusations do nothing but make authors in general feel less motivated to write. They're WIPs for a reason.
Option 1: If a platonic route is that important to you and you just want to "enjoy the story" and this Author and how they've decided to write their plot is keeping you from doing that; your best bet is playing something where romance is not basically one the biggest parts of the game.
Option 2: Be patient. Be considerate. Wait until Zinnia gets to the platonic route (if there will be one ). Nobody is "forced" to do anything. You are actively making the personal decision to play something making you unhappy.
This is a WIP. There will be a platonic route at some point (as I've stated multiple times it will be in the final copy). It is not abandoned. I currently have someone in my family dying and therefore, they are more important. But even if none of that was true,I would suggest trying to write over a million words in a year, which include about a dozen routes, learn how to code a game, and also live your life at the same time. Then talk to me about how you feel punished. When you have done it, you can come talk to me. I'm done with this.
You updated within the past couple months while you have a dying relative. This person is insane and so is anyone else pestering you.
I wish you and your family the best in navigating this hard time.
Every time Ive seen you make a comment yuunksu, it was to b*tch about something. You used super condescending language when noting they had not made a correction you just COULDNT live without. Your attitude needs work. This person owes you NOTHING. Stop acting like they should be working on your schedule instead of their own. Read something else in the mean time. Maybe even pick up a book or learn a new skill.
Then don't read it. It's the authors story, the author is working hard to write it, and trust, there are soooo many ppl out there that love's what the author does, appreciates all the hard work and waits with baited breath for all the work that gets put out. Yes it is a interactive fiction, but it is still the author's story, no if, ands, or buts about it period. If you find this punishing why continue to read it, just so you have something to complain about??? Smh, I never understand why someone will willingly do something like that. Anyway I am one of the consumers that wait for the author's hard work to come out. There are few author's out there that I would say I would buy their work 5 times over if I had to. That's how good the product is. I hope you have a great day and find some sunshine in your life so you stop complaining about things you really have no right to complain about. Live more, laugh more, and love more. The world and you need more of all 3 of those things.
I tried what you said but I still can't travel their route
Okay. That has been working for everyone else so I'm not sure what is happening because that would be something on your end. However, when the next chapter does come out, I am going to do an entirely new file and upload. I'm transferring everything to a new file to make sure there is no lingering issues from the Twine update they did. Hopefull that should fix it.
In the meantime, does anyone else have suggestions? I haven't heard where this hasn't worked for people. Usually deleting the cache and restarting the game from scratch fixes it.
Gabriel and Belladonna's routes still don't work even if I start from scratch
Did you delete your browser cache and start from the beginning? You have to delete everything your computer has saved with it and start a new game.
I haven't been this hooked on a story in who knows how long. Absolutely wonderful work!
In the pic is other part of the story (with the same characteristics I write before) where there is not "Next" part
Hi,
I am currently working on this bug. It may take a bit of time but I will post an update when that is all smoothed out. I'm not sure what happened yet and I have a feeling there is a random code somewhere that is causing the glitch.
honestly I really hope the author of this wonderful book would give us the options to romance all of the characters individually and give the option to enter poly routes without jeopardising the whole individual romance and the fanbase, I understand that they want to be inclusive but it'll really be cutting off the majority of people who play and read the story. that's just my opinion on the whole milo and malcom poly stuff.
Lmao a poly relationship jeopardizes the fanbase huh.
"Cutting off the majority" huh.
Yes. As one of the most sought after romances options in the series is milo removing the option to only romance him is potentially a risk, a lot of people prefer a single person romance, not saying that the poly route should be erased, just give the reader the choice like belladonna and Gabriel's romance routes instead of removing the opportunity entirely :)
Guys I can't find book 1 :(
it's on the main page of the writer, but if you can find it here's the link (the full book is on sale both here and on steam)
https://the-night-market.itch.io/the-night-market-free-demo
AAAA THANK YOU SO MUCH
* Due to there only being a handful of places to read reviews I thought I would leave this here to help people who are buying this game for the romance *
*Slight Spoilers* -
After playing both the Book One in full (All Romances) And reading the current Demo for book 2, I was incredibly disappointed in the way the author handles the Male Romances, specifically the handling of the poly routes. As the author has stated both Milo and Gabe have Solo and Poly routes, but this isn't entirely true, and from reading some of the replies on the Tumblr, it's borderline sneaky.
Milo is non-monogamous with a locked in poly (Book 2), The MC can either be apart of that Poly or Choose to only date Milo while he remains in it. This wouldn't be an issue for me *At all* if it didn't become clear how little Milo actually care's for the MC. In his route, you are basically a walking doormat for him, you will always be a background character compared to the other RO in the poly and it's blaringly obvious. The other RO is special to them, that much is blaringly obvious... while our MC is kind of... there. I don't know if the author wanted to do this for Angst? Because they didn't notice? but it just come's across to me and a number of other reviews I read as basically "If you want to romance this character, you have to accept a non-monogamous relationship in which you're side-lined... because Character Trauma *TM"
Gabe has similar issues but is far less "In your face" While Gabe *does* have a solo route, it becomes clear that that is *not* his preference... It's obvious that while you can Romance Gabe solo, he is constantly open to also including his Ex... which is an awful way of handling a Poly route. It come's across as though they're just "waiting" for the MC to change their mind and that's... awful.
All in all, I believe that the Author really should let people know about these issues with the romances before people invest time and money, I understand if perhaps, these issues were made to be angsty or even as a specific trope, but it doesn't come across that way. Hopefully these issues are touched upon in the Book 2 Demo, All of that said and as harsh as I may have sounded, this book is truly lovely, the setting is beautiful and for someone to create such unique atmosphere is incredible, I was absorbed immediately and it really itched my "Dark Alice in Wonderland Vibes" love.
Is there a way to restore my save from book 1 or at least insert my name and gender
Hi,
As you go through the prologue and chapter one you have the option to do all of that.
I think I might have found a small bug in the not romancing anyone in the first book route. When you're done with the Gabriel tea situation (as in, made the boy drink the darn stuff), there's nothing to advance the story where normally there's a Next you can click.
Also, absolutely awesome work!! This whole story is super cool, I had a blast playing Book 1 repeatedly with different MCs!
Ah... Gabriel breaks my heart 🤧
Jw can malcolm be romanced alone?
If i'm not mistaken your MC can romance Malcom alone but he will eventually enter a relationship with Milo too, and the same thing happens for Milo route. You can do their solo route but your MC will always end up in a polyamorous relationship: either a V poly (where you dating one of them and they're dating each other) or a triad poly where you're dating both of them and they're dating each other so basically the three are together.
Hey there, I know this is WIP, but I thought I'll mention it in case it's a bug. In Chapter 3 when You agree to Milo escorting you back. There are two dialogue options on a way, and neither of them has any continuation making game stuck.
Edit: Never mind! I suppose it's related to the fact that I used saves from previous versions of the game. When I reached end of chapter 3 the same thing happened and I could not continue to Chapter 4, but on the "New Game" I could continue all the way to chapter 4. Is that going to be a constant until the final release of the game? If you want to continue to next chapter, you have to restart from the beginning? Would be really nice to know, thank you!
It shouldn't be a constant. Twine updated not too long ago and I'm starting to wonder if the document I write in is not compatible with it anymore. There is something very strange going on with it all. I will usually post a note though if there is a chapter you need to start from and click through for a coding situation. Or I will put in backdoor codes and clean it up on the final version. Thank you for letting me know what is going on.
I see, thank you very much for clarifying :)
Looks promising but still zero character development from Milo frustrating to see. Is there any way to only romance Milo? I don't want to be polygamous with Mal. They claimed to be history but I feel like our MC is the third wheel in the relationship.
I think the author said you wouldn't be able to romance Milo without him also being with Malcolm, and we have to keep in mind that he was always a very flawed and stubborn character and he isn't gonna change years worth of behaviors and habits in a short while
At this rate I just hope the author is willing to compromise by giving us a choice to still be in a throuple or go back to being platonic with both guys.
I don’t care if I end up single, would rather be alone anyway than being Milo’s second choice when his first wasn’t there to comfort him. 🙄
You can break up with Milo in chapter five. I'm not sure if there will be a new romance code that will happen until the final product however. I'm wanting to get the story down rather than create more paths. When I have the final release, I'll narrow down what feels right for the characters more.
Oh I didn’t know that, thank you for giving that choice at least!
As for new romance, I don’t know about the others but personally I don’t mind if we don’t get to choose to romance anyone again (aka end up single). Like I said, I just wanted a choice to break up instead. And I totally understand your priority, still amazed at the speed of your writing, haha. 😅
It keeps acting as my night market is a bloke and the name keeps coming up as name instead of the actual name I put in. Edit: working fine now.
I wonder if someone is poisoning Belladonna, perhaps that guard dog of hers..
When i run the game i dont have a character sheet or a name or any of the stuff, is there a way to fix that?
So with this being the WIP version, most of the UI is not created yet. Most likely I'll be focusing on that more towards the end of the wip and have it for when it becomes a full game.
Love this series so far.
but seriously when can I kill Milo? He broke my heart and needs to die.
This is really great! I can't wait for more! Also how tall is Belladonna because for some reason even while I was reading the first book I imagined her to be like insanely tall? Maybe because she is a vampire? Anyway keep up the good work!
She is close to six foot with her heels on. Without, she's about 5'8"
will there be more chapters on itch.io or just on patreon? just finished the first book and the two chapters here and omgg i am SOBBING with the hazel scenes
Great question! Yes there will be. I post the chapter two weeks early on Patreon and then it is released public.
uhh so kinda finished book 1 in two days bc i fell in love with the story and ur characters (milo pookie bear ily but i do hate u so much rn…) anyways! zinnia why are u so amazing ?!! 💗😭 ima let the chapters on here marinate a little bit before reading tho :3 can smell the angst coming out of book 2 with the way we left off (yay!)
The angst is for sure coming. :)
I've binged-read from Book 1 until the latest chap of Book 2. Latest happenings were absolutely heart-wrenching, but I'm willing to go through the angst if it meant there's a light at the end of the tunnel. 🥹😭 Dealing with the aftermath in Book 2 was heart-breaking, but I'm here to go through it.
It's the second chapter to the book 2 wip
small wings cute but big beautiful majestic wings like an angel
and i loved it i can't wait for more night market ^^
i'm vibrating with excitement i had no clue this had come out !!
Is it normal that even though i chose the platonic path - game asumes that i had relationships with milo? Memories of kissing and "have malcom talked with him about us?"
Oh! No! Thank you for the heads up. I'll get that fixed with the next chapter.
Hello! Sorry to bother but its still there
Yes. Things have gotten a bit too hectic in my personal life so I didn't have time or content or a bug upate yet.
Emotionally distraught Milo romancers where you at? 🥲✋🏾
I just finished book one and oh my god. First off I immediately ran over here when I realized that part of book two was out lol. Second, the entirety of book one was some of the best writing I have ever seen, you are incredible, and I can already tell I am going to love book two just as much as I loved book one. Thank you. :)
First, I am happy I found this. Second, I am upset that I found it before it was completed.
No pressure, but where and when can I find more?
Oof. You are in right at the beginning, I'm afraid. So, obviously book one is up for purchase (I just have to make sure that you know because some people are unaware) but I just started writing this one. The good news is that I'm a pretty frequent updater. It only took me a year to write the first book in its entirety. Chapter two is about halfway written now and then it will be off to the beta's. Early access always goes up on Patreon first and then about two weeks later it is released to the public. I usually make an announcement here and over on Tumblr when I have early access out.
Screaming crying HELL YEAH😭Already amazing the Beginning and all and ahh so much joy playing now the wip of the sec.book😭🫶🫶🫶
My goosebumps danced with delight ♥
I'm so excited, this is great! Thank you, Zinnia
I'd like to think I speak for us all when I say AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Thank you so much, you're amazing 👏
Thank you for reading!
i cant wait for more ^^
Thank you.
You're welcome!